From jmurtari at AKidsRight.org Wed Oct 7 15:15:01 2009 From: jmurtari at AKidsRight.org (John Murtari) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:15:01 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] NonViolent Action-Jail? Oct 13/ Support? Thanks and Trying for Texas! Message-ID: <19148.59573.453750.530429@torch.softwareworkshop.com> Good People & People of Faith, This message has info on: 1. Action & Jail? Need Mom & Dad! - Oct 13, Lyons, NY 2. Support? Movie - Texas Film Festival 1. Action & Jail? Need Mom & Dad! - Oct 13, Lyons, NY ------------------------------------------------------ WHO - I'm John Murtari, group coordinator, and I want to announce a return to NonViolent Action. I was forced to close my business and it took a while for an orderly shutdown. WHAT - I plan on taking kid's chalk and filling some sidewalks with messages about family rights....pretty harmless? Many of you recall it resulted in Federal Prosecution outside the offices of former Senator Clinton in Syracuse, NY. http://www.AKidsRight.Org/actionc_syr WHEN/WHERE - Since my driver's license has been suspended for months, I'll start on Tuesday, Oct 13th, in my home town of Lyons, NY, at the office of New York State Assemblyman Robert Oaks. Don't get me wrong. He's a nice person, has children of his own, and certainly cares about parents and families (as do most politicians and most people). His website: http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/?ad=128 His email: oaksr at assembly.state.ny.us WHY - I've approached him for years to introduce 'First in the Nation' legislation. A simple Bill that says when a child is born, both biological parents have a right to know. I really didn't think it would be a problem. He initially thought it made sense, but after a visit to Albany he advised me it would be a political 'bad move' for him. http://www.AKidsRight.Org/parental_notification. My actions, and hopefully "our" actions, need to help him get over that fear. Not by anger, but in a demonstration of our beliefs by loving self-sacrifice. http://www.AKidsRight.Org/civil.htm YOUR HELP - To make this easy it needs to be more than one person. I'd really like to be joined by a loving Mother & and a Father who were unjustly separated from their kids. I sent out a message back in February asking for involvement. http://www.AKidsRight.org/archive/archive2009/0007.html ALSO - I don't have any brothers or sisters, and my former business is closed (due to my inability to drive to my own office). I would like to have someone I can pre-arrange to accept "collect calls" from me in jail. It should be someone in the Central New York area to keep the rates down and I will pay you in advance for the anticipated phone charges. ALSO - The group gets a lot of email. If you have been a member for a while and could handle checking/responding to mail, please let me know. WHY PARENTAL NOTIFICATION - Many of us have different goals, but a lot of parents are concerned about divorce reform ("if I give you one bite of the apple, we are sharing!") and also child 'protective' services ("we protect your kids by taking them from you!). We have talked about goals before, but sometimes the real issues gets clouded -- how many times have all of us heard from legislators ("we really need to do what is best for the children!"). If a legislator won't support your right to even know you have a child -- what can you expect from that person regarding CPS reform or EQUAL custody? We need to get them thinking about fundamental rights. The real problem is bias/prejudice. How many different 'rational?' reasons did people have to justify segregation (just a little over 50 years ago). Blacks were denigrated by back-of-the-bus, pee-in-different-bathroom, drink-different-water attitudes by Whites (who were nice people, just like us). DEMONSTRATE OUR BELIEFS - Talk is cheap. The ability to parent our own children should be one of our most valued rights. If we think it is, the most effective way to convert the minds & hearts of others is by our willingness to sacrifice our freedom for what we believe in. WHAT OTHER PARENTS ARE SAYING - >From Teri Stoddard Chalk.... $1.99 Sign-making materials.... $4.99 Travel expenses.... $75 Story for the grandkids of your incarceration for parents' rights... PRICELESS! 2. Support? Movie - Texas Film Festival --------------------------------------- From: Angelo Lob, Producer of the movie "Support? System Down" http://www.SupportTheMovie.com/ Dear Supporters, SUPPORT? was a hit at the Peach Tree International Film Festival! Even though we didn't win an award Support? is still the HIGHEST ranking film on the buzz meter and was among some very good films. Quite frankly, I don't need a plaque to put on the wall because just a hand shake or a hug letting me know it was a good movie and it relates to you and yours is an award in itself. I pray Support? can be used as a tool to demonstrate the suffering across America today and move towards reform. The turn out was excellent and we hope to have more exposure soon. ***Thank you VERY MUCH to EVERYONE who made it possible for us to be there. THANK YOU!**** We have made some great new contacts and we hope to keep this project moving! As I write this update, Support? System Down at this very moment is being screened for consideration into another Film Festival in Fort Worth, Texas. The Lone Star film festival http://www.lsiff.com/ The Lone Star International Film Festival exists to celebrate the art of the moving image by supporting emerging visions as well as paying homage to masters of the medium. By partnering with other cultural organizations and educational institutions in Fort Worth, the festival also seeks to make film appreciation a permanent fixture among the world class cultural landscape of the city. Finally, the festival intends to contribute to the ongoing international dialogue surrounding the art and business of film with screenings, exhibitions, and discussions that explore the newest innovations in creativity, technology, and distribution. Keep us in your prayers so that we do make it!! Stay Tuned... A very special thanks for helping us with PR and News, Ms. Jane Spies : http://www.nfja.org/bio/jane.shtml A special thank you for being there and supporting the film to: Dr. Sharon Squires, http://www.paternityfraud.com/dr-sharon-squires-phd.html and Mr. Carnell Smith http://www.paternityfraud.com http://www.paternityfraud.com/blog/212/support-system-down-exposes-paternity-fraud-and-more/ Mr. John Murtari for traveling there and showing me how to take the train. Click here for information: http://www.AKidsRight.Org/pviff.htm Ms. Karen Wagner: http://www.npra.info/ for being supportive and bring so many supporters with her. Please also go to: Dr. Monty Weinstein and you should check out his website also http://www.familyunity.com/ God Bless. Warmest Regards, Angelo Lobo -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" (315) 944-0999(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ From jmurtari at AKidsRight.org Wed Oct 14 10:01:35 2009 From: jmurtari at AKidsRight.org (John Murtari) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:01:35 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] My Story -- Dr. Malcolm Hatfield (MD) / Your Rights? Message-ID: <19157.55743.769835.296024@torch.softwareworkshop.com> Good People & People of Faith, 1. My Story - Dr. Malcolm Hatfield, MD 2. Never Accept Abuse of Your Rights - Eric Tarkington 3. Action & Jail? Delay and help - Oct 20, Lyons, NY 1. My Story - Dr. Malcolm Hatfield, MD -------------------------------------- [ Dr. Hatfield has been a long time member of the group. He's active in reform and has had several letters published by a local paper, The Racine Journal Times. He was willing to share details of his terrible experience with the "system" below. For more info and links to some of his letters, check our Hall of Shame entry: http://www.AKidsRight.org/shame3.htm#hatfield - John] Submitted by: Dr. Malcom Hatfield Here is my story: In 1989, my then first wife and I moved from Hinsdale, IL, a suburb of Chicago to Racine, WI, about 75 miles north of Chicago. We were both physicians and had one daughter, born in 1989. My wife protested the move because she wanted to live near her family in Hinsdale. In 1992, it became obvious to her that I would never move closer to Chicago. She made it clear to me that she hated me for moving her from her home and would divorce me in a minute and marry some rich old man if it weren't for the custody issue of our daughter, Mary. She knew that I loved Mary and would fight for her custody. In early 1993, my former mother-in-law said that our then four year old daughter had told her that "daddy made pee pee on me." This happened again and again over the next 6 months, but only when my daughter was with her maternal grandmother. Finally, in Sept, 1993, I went out of town for 5 days and returned to see my house empty and the sheriff's deputy awaiting me to serve me with restraining order for the alleged sexual molestation of my then 4 year old daughter. After a police investigation, including my then wife allowing the police and CPS workers to search and seize anything and everything in our house, no criminal charges were filed. Our marriage was still intact; however, eventually she filed for divorce. I went 14 months with no contact because of Family Court. My 80 year old mother had to have supervised visits for one hour per week after 6 months of no contact. All of this was done based solely on opinion with no physical evidence, audio or video evidence whatsoever. Mommy hired an expert who diagnosed me as paranoid schizophrenic. All of this happened despite the fact that I was a successful physician with a busy practice in the community with a squeaky clean criminal, psychological and physical record. Since then, I passed a polygraph test and one of the best experts in the world came to Racine and after a lengthy evaluation, recommended primary placement with dad because of the parental alienation being practiced by mommy. His name is Richard Gardner, MD. Both of these latter facts were ruled by Judge Richard Kreul to be not credible. Since the end of 1994 when contact resumed, I had supervised visitation for visits which had to remain in a public place. Only a Master's degree person approved by judge Kreul could supervise. This supervisor had to remain within earshot of everything I said. She dissected every interaction I had with Mary and they tried to use her testimony to further restrict my contact. They did everything possible to chase me away from my daughter despite the fact that I paid my $5132.00 per month in child support to mommy. Mommy used that money to hire attorneys and experts to keep me away. I had to pay her $45 per hour to the supervisor, or not see Mary. When months would pass with no contact, my State Assemblyperson was the only person alive who was able to force Kreul to allow me to see my daughter. Judge Kreul refused to give away the case to another judge. Mom was allowed to move back to Illinois despite my objection. Finally, in 2001 my daughter was hospitalized with inflammatory bowel disease. Then and only then was I able to see Mary unsupervised. Once, the judge appointed his own expert, Ken Waldron, PhD to review the matter. Dr. Waldron sided with me, so Kreul ruled that he was not credible. Meantime, all the records of my case were sealed, "in the best interest of the child." The judge held me in contempt twice, once for telling my daughter she is welcome home anytime she wants to come home. The other because I had written letters to various newspapers and legislators, which was a violation of the sealed court orders. Kreul sentenced me to jail for 30 days with no work release as a result. My attorney appealed this and the appellate court modified that order and made it clear to the judge that I better do something pretty obvious and outrageous before he can incarcerate me. I now enjoy a great relationship with Mary and have remarried a former Miss Wisconsin who is a great gal. Mommy can't get a second date and will grow old alone. She squandered the over $800,000.00 child support paid to her on legal and expert fees. The key to my success was that I never gave up and maintained some minimal contact with my daughter. The months I was allowed contact, I would see her twice a month for four hours each time. That was enough to maintain a relationship. If this can happen to a physician with a squeaky clean record with a good income it can happen to anyone. What we need is shared parenting by default with an elevated burden of proof to allow the government to interfere with the parent child relationship. If you close Family Court completely, all of the necessary protections still exist in Juvenile Court. The burden of proof for abuse needs to be "clear and convincing". In divorce, both parents should submit a parenting plan and the court must chose that plan that maximizes placement with both parents. If one parent chooses to move, the child stays in the same school district as when the marriage was intact. Sincerely, Malcolm Hatfield, MD 2. Never Accept Abuse of Your Rights - Eric Tarkington ------------------------------------------------------ [ Eric Tarkington has a gift for saying things in just a few words. Here is another winning message he posted to a Canadian mailing list (EPOC_NEWS at yahoogroups.com -- I recommend it!). When the system says "move to the back of the bus" and all we do is moan & complain, but then sit in the back --- nothing changes. - John ] Submitted by: Eric Tarkington It is amazing how docile people are! They will actually allow the government to take their children and/or decide which parental rights they keep. It is rare that the government has to use even the threat of force - people comply with having their hearts ripped out, just because they think they should. It's the 21st century, people! Join an equal parenting group! You are not the government's little dog, and they have no right to snatch your "puppies" when they feel like it. They are violating you and your children through you, and if you are not a criminal you are much better for your children than any government. Your natural commitment to your children is the awesome power that keeps the human race going. Respect yourself! Stand up and fight for your parental rights, which are the best protection of your children's best interests. There is only one other person who has an equal right to parent your children. Work things out with him or her, and keep the government out of it. 3. Action & Jail? Delay and help - Oct 20, Lyons, NY ---------------------------------------------------- I want to thank some folks who responded to my last message for some help with some planned NonViolent Action: http://www.AKidsRight.org/archive/archive2009/0035.html Teri Stoddard and http://sharedparentingworks.org/ -- will take care of the AKidsRight.Org web site & mailing list while I am jailed. Ray Lautenschlager and http://www.pacegroup.org/ will handle group email. I'm still looking for another Mom & Dad willing to join me in the effort. I could also really use someone in the Central NY area who would be willing to accept an occasional collect call from Jail. I would pay you in advance for charges and arrange a schedule. Please let me know! - John Murtari I had to delay the planned start due to difficulty in taking care of some former customers of a web hosting business I used to run. I didn't want to leave them out of service if it could be avoided. -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" (315) 944-0999(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ From jmurtari at AKidsRight.org Sun Oct 25 09:17:23 2009 From: jmurtari at AKidsRight.org (John Murtari) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:17:23 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] Murtari arrest expected Monday / Why risk jail for reform? Message-ID: <19172.20451.499858.187962@torch.softwareworkshop.com> Good People & People of Faith, This message contains info on: 1. Murtari - arrest expected Monday. 2. Why risk jail? 1. Murtari - arrest expected Monday. ------------------------------------ Group coordinator, John Murtari, has been trying to show his state Assemblyman the importance of recognizing Family Rights -- beginning with the right to know you're a parent. He's writing a simple message, "Mr. Oaks - HELP FAMILY RIGHTS," with kid's chalk on the sidewalk. Click on the link below for a pretty comprehensive story (including pictures) from Examiner.com: http://www.examiner.com/x-15873-Family-Rights-Examiner%7Ey2009m10d24-Activist-Murtari-resumes-Youre-a-Parent-Notification-Act-campaign-in-Lyons John would certainly welcome anyone who wishes to visit Lyons, NY on Monday afternoon. He plans on moving his activity to downtown, outside the Village Offices at 76 William Street, at 2 PM. You can contact Mr. Oaks by: website: http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/?ad=128 email: oaksr at assembly.state.ny.us phone: 315-946-5166 write: Assemblyman Robert Oaks, 10 Leach Road, Lyons, NY 14489 2. Why risk jail? ----------------- I wrote this before starting my NonViolent Action campaign. I wanted to have something ready in case I am arrested and jailed. http://www.AKidsRight.Org/parental_notification Why risk jail & who should? --------------------------- This message is for those who really got burned by the system. Saw your family destroyed; watched yourself treated with indignity and sometimes abused by a system which just didn't care. Those whose kids didn't "turn around" and come back after they got older. Parents who never healed by just forgetting and accepting the injustice done. It's the first thing you think about every day -- and may always be. A nightmare and you can't wake up! You get angry, but find no relief. In the long hours of the night - you sometimes cry, but nothing has changed by morning. You want to have Faith in a loving God, but it just doesn't make any sense. This message is for you. About responding to injustice with self-sacrifice and love. The essence of NonViolent Action. What motivates someone to take these risks when, quite frankly, the chances of anything really changing look pretty small! My peace -------- I've been fortunate to keep a close relationship with my son, Domenic, through it all. As I've said before, my actions are a way of expressing my thanks and giving back. But I was always disgusted by the separation, all the good times that were missed, the indignity & injustice. I've heard so many of your really horrible stories and was frightened by what could have happened to me. I really burned at times! I took NonViolent Action to help change the system, http://www.AKidsRight.Org/events.htm -- but there was an amazing side effect. I was still angry at what happened, but the fire -- that was consuming me -- went out. Walking into a building holding a picture of my son; writing "I LOVE YOU" with chalk on the ground -- and telling the system, "you can't stop me" from showing my love and calling attention to injustice. Ready to sit in a jail cell with trust in our Loving Father. I sleep like a baby (mostly!). God doesn't need me to fix this injustice. I've taken the most powerful & peaceful action I can -- which forces me to live & affirm my Faith. That we are all brothers & sisters, but just don't know it. I pray for reconciliation with my former spouse -- to be open to the possibility they may change and to see my hidden faults & failings. I occasionally write her and say, "I accept equal responsibility for whatever went wrong so many years ago -- can we put this behind us?" Lastly, and with humility, I also acknowledge the many errors I've made through the years. I'm not perfect and don't have just 'resume quality' faults. The most effect penance is the one we impose on ourselves from our own free will. Worry about the outcome? A little bit, but only when I lose my sense of Faith in a Loving Father that cares for me more than even the love I have for my own son. How could anything bad happen? If you want more thoughts on this, keep reading... "Nature abhors a vacuum" ------------------------ You get a 110,000 hits on Google if you search for that. Mostly science -- add the word "metaphysics" and you still get about 5,600 hits. Why bring this up? It's an analogy, something to think about. "Nonviolent resistance ... is based on the conviction that the universe is on the side of justice. Consequently, the believer in nonviolence has deep faith in the future ...[and] can accept suffering without retaliation. For he knows that in his struggle for justice he has cosmic companionship." Martin Luther King http://www.AKidsRight.Org/civil.htm Injustice is a vacuum, a void -- how do we "fill" it? ----------------------------------------------------- What do I see mostly? Parent's who have been so abused and traumatized by the system, they just want to fight a battle and kick back! "Some men can't even stand to look at a scene of mother and child happily together without some anger -- b%tch! Dirty Feminists! And we're sure many women have experienced the same after seeing THEIR child "taken" by a former husband... abusive control freak! Stupid Masculinist!" After that anger and in private, just depression and tears .... occasionally, someone does take physical action of the most unfortunate type and we have murder, suicide, or both. Nothing to help reform: it's about I, Me, and Mine! What are you willing to sacrifice to make things better for others? The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector ------------------------------------------------- I know many of you have heard this one a thousand times! Read it one more time, and put yourself in one of the roles -- and then your spouse, judge, lawyer, social worker in the other. Who do you want to be? Two men went up into the temple to pray; one was a Pharisee, and the other was a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed to himself like this: "God, I thank you, that I am not like the rest of men, extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week. I give tithes of all I get." But the tax collector, standing far away, wouldn't even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, "God, be merciful to me, a sinner!" I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted." Luke 18:9-14 My choice of best 'filling' for a vacuum of injustice? ----------------------------------------------------- Again, humility and our demonstrations of sacrifice & love for the sake of our children. To make the system better for others -- even if it is too late for us. Powerful stuff! http://www.AKidsRight.Org/approach.htm Forget name calling and the insults and fighting-fire-with-fire. Focus on the one thing we can (sometimes) control -- ourselves and our actions. Most of my actions were done alone. You don't need a crowd to be effective in bringing peace to your own heart. Once that changes, it will be amazing how quickly the rest follows. -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" (315) 944-0999(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ From jmurtari at AKidsRight.org Wed Oct 28 14:36:58 2009 From: jmurtari at AKidsRight.org (John Murtari) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:36:58 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] Murtari chalk message not 'offensive'/ Your FEEDBACK Message-ID: <19176.36682.3336.127595@torch.softwareworkshop.com> Good People & People of Faith, This message has info on two items: 1. Murtari action - chalk message not 'offensive'. 2. Your FEEDBACK - on action & sacrifice. 1. Murtari action - chalk message not 'offensive'. ------------------------------------------------- For photos and descriptions of the effort during the past two weeks please go to: http://www.AKidsRight.Org/parental_notification I've been gradually increasing the amount of chalk used. Yesterday, 10/28, I began writing on the sidewalk outside the County Courthouse. "Mr Oaks - HELP FAMILY RIGHTS" Someone from building security came out and said, "That's not allowed. You're going to have to stop writing on the sidewalk. There won't be any trouble if you stop now, you can just leave..." He was very nice about it and didn't act threatening. I simply responded, "I don't mean to cause a hassle,... but I really can't leave and need to keep writing." At that point he said he'd have to call someone to respond. I kept writing until I ran out of chalk. Then just quietly walked up and down the sidewalk. A few minutes later a police car pulled up and the officer went inside... Half an hour later he came out. When he approached I was ready to be arrested, but got surprised. He explained quite a few phone calls had been made and they couldn't determine how to arrest me. They wanted to charge me with writing 'graffiti', but my message was clearly not offensive (and I do print neatly!). He left. I stayed a total of two hours and was surprised to have at least two County employees come up to me and say, "Good message!" It was my plan to return today, Oct 28, with a lot more chalk -- but was called off because of rain! ONE person can be labeled a 'crank' -- THREE people are a movement! -------------------------------------------------------------------- We have so much power when we take 'risks' to send a positive message. I've not tried to get media attention, because it's just me and they get tired of that. Obviously, if I was joined by another mother & father we could send a very strong signal and get good media coverage. Our legislators would certainly pay much more attention. Its been said so many times before -- we fail to make progress not because of "them" but because of "us". Our actions must be as powerful as the love we have for our kids. We need to have Faith in the power of love. I'm still looking for another Mom & Dad to join the effort. Please contact me if you're interested If you're too far way, take just a moment and contact Mr. Oaks about recognizing the simple right to know you are a parent. web: http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/?ad=128 email: oaksr at assembly.state.ny.us phone: 315-946-5166 write: Assemblyman Robert Oaks, 10 Leach Road, Lyons, NY 14489 2. Your FEEDBACK - on action & sacrifice. ----------------------------------------- --- Fred Sottile > I am writing because I just read your contribution to the F4J yahoo > group. I wanted to express my thanks. Your "way" of standing up for > justice, righteousness and yourself has great merit and is truly > appreciated by me, and I am sure by many others. > It is not my "way" but It is beautiful and perhaps best. It > certainly is best for you as it is the way of John Murtari, the only > way it could be for you. I will, as it is God's will, continue with > you in the only way that I can. Together, with the many others who > walk our path, we will do what we must. Sincerely, as ever, Fred > Sottile --- Sheryle > I just think there are so many other ways to get your message > across. You are so much more effective when you can help all of us > and you can't do that when you are in jail. Please re think this, > participate in a parade, lobby congress, or hold a permitted > rally. Just my personal opinion and concern for you and your son. > ...I just hope that you will survive again, for your sake and for > Dom's I feel that you risk your life the last time and I know that > you and Dom are very close and life would hurt forever if he doesn't > have you. Sheryle I won't be doing any non-cooperation [by not voluntarily eating or drinking] this time! That only happens when they come and arrest me (which has only been twice, once for the support a few years ago, and then jailed for the license last year). Normally, when I am initiating the action, my voluntary sacrifice is giving up my freedom. That is enough. I agree with you and do not take the health risk lightly. The other ways of getting the 'message across' that you mention are all valuable and must be done. At the same time, if we truly think Family Rights are one of the GREAT Civil Rights -- then they won't come easy nor without sacrifice. I think history is pretty clear on that. I certainly know I can't do it alone, but I have to do what I know I can do. Dom is aware of my activities and why -- and he understands because he saw what the system put us through. We are very fortunate and he also understands 'giving back'. --- Joanne Rudman Scheafnocker > You haven't heard from me in a while, but I have followed every step > of your work during this entire time.?? I thought some avenue of > communication would finally be granted to you after Hillary left the > area.?? Apparently political office puts some above all the real > issues that we parents are going through.?? Maybe public office > grants some kind of immunity from court injustice so that these > officials turn a deaf ear to the pleadings of the real victims. > ... All I can do for now is pray for you, support you in all you do, > and to encourage you as best as I can John, I have been diagnosed > with cancer and also have a severe malfunctioning heart.?? I have > asked the dear Lord to accept my sufferings, and even death if it is > in His plan, so that this nation founded on Christian family values > will finally eliminate all the obstacles between parents who, > against their will, have been so wronged as to lose precious > bonding, loving time with their children. > If you do go to jail again, you will not be alone!?? Please, just > never give up the faith.?? You embody my idea of a true fathers' > right activist. I had begun to write a book recently and am > desperately trying to complete it while I am able. Blindness slows > me down because I had to adapt many of my computer skills, but I am > strongly motivated.?? > The title is:?? Fathers' Rights, Fathers' Wrongs and sums up my > observations of the Fathers' Rights Movement from my personal > experiences working with the National Congress for Fathers and > Children along with multiple grass roots organizations in numerous > states; factual cases and incidents that I witnessed working as a > volunteer court certified child advocate in Pennsylvania; and years > of intense research. There is a university library in one of the > mid-western states (I cannot remember off hand) that supposedly > collects documentation from the "beginning" of the Fathers' Rights > groups in this country.?? From what I've read, there does not seem to > be enough evidence to support this fact. > Go in peace and assurance that you are making a tremendous > difference.?? In your humbleness, you will indeed leave a great > legacy to the cause of the non-custodial parents like yourself. --- Randall Scotti > Thanks for the encouragement John! Keep trusting God...bad is our > limited scope assessment of the situation. Habakkuk asked the same- > How God? Why God? We are your chosen. Habakkuk's resolve - 2:1, > remain steadfast as a watchman, awaiting the Lord's response. God > responded three verses later- "The just shall live by faith!" -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" (315) 944-0999(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/