From jmurtari at AKidsRight.org Fri Aug 10 09:05:33 2007 From: jmurtari at AKidsRight.org (John Murtari) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:05:33 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] Give-Get a Ride for the DC Rally/ Syracuse Rally Report Message-ID: <18108.25245.384010.483135@hammer.thebook.com> Good People & People of Faith, 1. DCRally2007 - (Aug 18th) Give/Get a Ride? Hotel? 2. Syracuse Rally - results. 3. FPRA - Family Preservation & Reconciliation Act? 1. DCRally2007 - (Aug 18th) Give/Get a Ride? Hotel? -------------------------------------------------- I know it's the last minute, but some may still be deciding whether a trip to Washington for what may be the largest Parent's Rights gathering ever -- is worth the cost/effort? For details on the rally see: http://www.dcrally2007.com/ Some of us (me! me!) are still looking to get or give a ride. We are trying to do this quickly. If you are interested please fill out the little form below and send it to: webmaster at AKidsRight.Org (Deadline is Saturday night). We will collect and send them all out Sunday morning before noon. Hopefully that will give folks time to make contact. You can include as much/little personal info as you wish. Some of you may be able to drive, but could also pool with others, in that case just say 'both' below: If you can meet people at a nearby Interstate exit (park & ride), that makes it easier. If you can give a ride, note the route you are taking to DC. We assume everyone will equally share gas & toll expenses on the trip. -------------------------------------------- send us this TYPE (give a ride/ get a ride/ both): NAME: EMAIL ADDRESS: ADDRESS (at least city, state): PHONE NUMBER: BEST TIME TO CALL: PLANNED ROUTE/TIMES (give a ride): BEST PLACE FOR PICKUP - DATE/TIME: PLAN TO LEAVE DC - DATE/TIME: PLAN for ACCOMMODATIONS: REMARKS: --------------------------------------------- A hotel where many participants plan on staying and having a get-together on Friday evening: http://book.bestwestern.com/bestwestern/productInfo.do?propertyCode=09101 Best Western Pentagon Hotel - Reagan Airport (AAA rate of $80/night) 2480 S Glebe Road, Arlington, VA, 22206-2576 Phone: 703-979-4400 If you have never been to Washington, their subway system, the "Metro" is great. Very clean, very safe, and great routes. For a map see: http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm -- you shouldn't need a car once you are there. 2. Syracuse Rally - results. --------------------------- We had TWO people show up! I was joined by Ms. Katherine Neville from Liverpool NY and we both stood outside the US Federal Building. I was still blocked from entering the building, but Katherine brought her petition for reform to the offices of Sen. Clinton and spoke with her Regional Representative (see her first hand report below and also her message to the Senator). I had spoken to Katherine on the phone earlier. She told me that a few years ago she had been diagnosed with a brain tumor the size of a baseball. I expressed my concern, but she told me not too worry, after treatment it was currently the size of a lemon! She is a real 'fireball' and you'd never guess her condition (or age) from looking at her. A mother and grandmother who has watched two of her sons struggle through the system -- she understands Civil Rights. As a child she can remember picking cotton in Mississippi with the blacks. Her father was not prejudice, but they couldn't play with the black kids in public. To do so might incite the Klan to visit the blacks and burn down their home (but we know the 'rest of the story': Eventually blacks were willing to take the risk in support of their 'great right'). Here is Katherine's message (katherine at AKidsRight.Org): I went into the Hanley Federal Building at approx. 12:30 P.M. to deliver letters to Senators Clinton and Schumer and Congressman Walsh's offices from John Murtari and myself. The object was not only to hand deliver the letters, but to also try and get a few minutes of time from an assistant/ representative from each office to sit down with me and discuss our goal of Congressional Civil Rights Action. I was very nervous having never done anything like this before, despite being a very outgoing, outspoken woman. I had not anticipated being the group's spokesperson. John had given me contact names of people to ask for in Rep. Walsh's and Senator Clinton's offices. Having names alleviated some of my anxiety. I went first to Senator Schumer's office which is located on the 8th floor, there were three people engaged in conversation within the common area. Two of the three people present quickly went to offices as I gave my name, stated that I was affiliated with the group AKidsRight and gave a brief synopsis as to why I was there. I was very nervous on this initial request. I was hot from being outside in the sun on the concrete, my mouth was dry and I had not anticipated speaking at length for our cause. I remember feeling as though I might pass out. The young man I spoke with was polite and aware of our goals but seemed to be rushing me. I neglected to get his name. I left the letters which he assured me would be forwarded to Senator Schumer. The entire conversation, lasted 2-3 minutes. We never sat down, no notes were taken. After leaving Senator Schumer's office, I took a deep breath and headed for Congressman Walsh's office which is on the 13th floor. Our goals are worthy and I was determined to have them heard. Here there were numerous people milling about. I introduced myself, my affiliation with the group, stated that Mr. Murtari was outside, and gave my reason for being there ( deliver letters and speak with a representative about our goals). The contact person I requested to speak with was unavailable/ not in the office, so I asked if there was someone else I could speak to. Eric Schenck (Staff Assistant), who had directly approached me said he was willing to listen to what I had to say. I then asked if there was somewhere we could sit down since I would need few minutes. He obliged, even taking notes on our conversation about our goal for Congressional Action for a Parents Rights Act and the reasons why it is necessary. Indeed, as a young man who came from a family of divorce he seemed to recognize the civil rights issue. I explained to him that achieving our goal would someday protect his rights as a parent. He assured me that Congressman Walsh would receive the letters and a report on my visit. Then on to Senator Clinton's office on the 14th floor, to deliver letters and attempt to get a few moments with Cathy Calhoun to convince her that our goal is an important valid issue and why a meeting with Senator Clinton would benefit all. The outer office was small and very hot. Approximately 7 people were seated at or around the one desk. I introduced myself, explained my purpose, mentioned that Mr. Murtari was with me outside and asked to speak with Cathy Calhoun. I was told she was no longer working in the Syracuse office. I asked to speak with her replacement Jay Biba. He emerged from his office saying he had a meeting but would certainly take the letters. I was politely persistent asking him what time was his meeting. It was for 1pm which left him with about 13 minutes. I assured him I would take no more than 10 minutes of his time. He was familiar with the organization and our goal. I asked why we had been unable thus far to arrange a meeting between Senator Clinton and small group of parents. I explained the purpose of the proposed meeting as well as the content. He did try to brush it off as a State issue, however, I reiterated that since we regard it as a civil liberty, it was indeed a Federal issue and should be protected by our Constitution as are other civil liberties. I acknowledged that Senator Clinton is very busy, that she has a full agenda but we have been patiently waiting and we do not expect change to happen overnight. We are only requesting a meeting and we are not demanding it be tomorrow, next week or even next month. Just give us a date, we are willing to wait. He said Senator Clinton would get a report of our discussion and the letters. His only real response, which seems to make sense was, ?Keep writing letters, the more letters the Senator gets, the more likely you'll get a meeting?. I thanked him taking no more than the time allotted. The rally was for me a positive experience. People saw our signs, became aware of our organization and a few became aware of our goal. If they did not ask what our purpose was, some simply never knew. That's why news and/media coverage is so important. I delivered our letters and got a few minutes ( 10 min. ea. @ Clinton's & Walsh' offices ) to make a plea for our goal, so I feel that something was accomplished. Since Mr. Murtari and myself were the only active participants, our goal did not enlist the news or media coverage to reach the masses. I wish we had been able to get more local people to participate in the rally. There is power in numbers, and while this is not really about power; we are trying to achieve Federal Legislation. Elected officials tend to be dictated to by the numbers. Though I am a rebel by nature, I have never been involved in reform in such a personal way. Our goal of Federal Legislation for a Family Rights Act is such an important one I felt the need to act, not just for myself, but for my children, my grandchildren, and all the children yet to be. -- Katherine Golden, July 31, 2007 July 29, 2007 The Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton United States Senate Dear Senator Clinton: I am writing this letter to request your help in getting Congressional action seeking National Family Law Reform. I've heard that you are a staunch defender of children and family rights, which is exactly why I'm asking for your assistance. I am a parent, a mother specifically. There are no words grand enough to describe the love I feel for my four children. I believe in equal shared parenting, that children benefit most when they have equal time with and access to the love of both parents. I believe parents have a basic human right, as well as a need, to participate in the lives of their children. We need Federal Rights Legislation to ensure recognition that it is the God given right of parents and children to be together, as well as for protection from well intentioned government interference. As my children and I have been effected as a result of current Family Court policy, I would welcome the opportunity to testify at a Congressional hearing about my Family Court experiences. Please help by recognizing a need for, and then sponsoring legislation to ensure this right. This Is A Civil Rights Issue. It needs to be addressed. The time is not only now, but is long overdue. It is no less important than the civil rights issues of slavery, segregation or the woman's right to vote. Indeed, shouldn't the principles of our Constitution, enacted to protect our most fundamental liberties be applied equally to protect that bond between parents and children? Ideally, this would mean that the same basic laws which govern criminal courts would apply to the Family Court: the presumption of equal parenting, tangible proof, and protection of a jury. The lives of my children and I have been forever changed having experienced the inequalities, the deprivation of civil liberties, and the alienation of family, due to the current Family Court system. Please help by endorsing a call for a Congressional Hearing and eventually the creation of a Family Rights Act. In closing I would like to reiterate that we don't need additional laws, what is needed is protection, in the form of Federal Civil Rights Legislation. Please Help ! Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, Katherine E. Neville 3. FPRA - Family Preservation & Reconciliation Act? --------------------------------------------------- Do we know what we want and how to express it in words? http://www.dcrally2007.com/familyact/familyact.php What do you think? How would it work applied to your situation? What do you think of our proposal for a Family Rights Act, http://www.AKidsRight.Org/approach.htm ? -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org "A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" Toll Free (877) 635-1968(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ From jmurtari at AKidsRight.org Sun Aug 12 12:00:28 2007 From: jmurtari at AKidsRight.org (John Murtari) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:28 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] DC Rally ride requests/ I believe... /Hesitation & Action Message-ID: <18111.11932.37864.474938@hammer.thebook.com> Good People & People of Faith, 1. DCRally2007 - (Aug 18th) Give/Get a ride requests. 2. We believe - in what? Just in time for the rally! 3. Hesitation, Temptation & Action - for reform? 1. DCRally2007 - (Aug 18th) Give/Get a ride requests. ---------------------------------------------------- Here is the response from people looking to give/get a ride to the DC Rally, http://www.dcrally2007.com/ Some didn't give us a lot of details, but here is the info: --- Teri Stoddard This request is coming from me (John Murtari). Many of you know Teri Stoddard. She has been active in the reform effort for years and has helped a lot of people (most especially me when I was in jail last year!). She is one of the bloggers on Mens News Daily: http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/teri and has her own web site http://www.sharedparentingworks.org/ She does not have much money, lives in California, and can't get to the rally. She didn't want to ask for help, so I insisted that I would. Money is tight for most of us, but if you think you can help her with a ride/air-fare -- please contact her directly and work something out. Thanks! --- Meg Schooler Do you know of anyone in Ohio going? I am in Cincinnati. --- Clarice Riley I had plan on flying but if anyone who is interested in going to Rally, I will drive my jeep and it sit 4 perfectly. So if there is 3 or 4 interested and in my area of State, Georgia I need to hear from you asap. ps...also someone to help drive...I drive a lot on my job and can use little help...need to know asap no later for me than Sunday morning. --- John Murtari TYPE: Planning to drive, but would prefer to share another ride. ADDRESS: Lyons, NY (between Rochester & Syracuse) PHONE NUMBER: 315-430-2702 BEST TIME TO CALL: 9am - 5pm EDT PLANNED ROUTE/TIME: Leave 7am Friday, Rt. 14 to PA, then Rt 15 to Harrisburg, I-83/695/295 to DC BEST PLACE FOR PICKUP/TIMES: Exit 42 (Geneva/Lyons I-90) PLAN TO LEAVE DC and RETURN (date/time): Sunday about 9am. REMARKS: My car is an 88 Dodge Caravan with 288,000 miles, very 'broken in', but no A/C and sort of loud. Oh, and in the interest of 'full-disclosure', my drivers license has been suspended for years due to child support 'issues' -- for details on that: http://www.AKidsRight.Org/support_jm.htm 2. We believe - in what? Just in time for the rally! ---------------------------------------------------- Besides a demonstration for the public and media, the DC Rally is a chance for 'us' to figure out what we believe. What we want reform to be and who 'we' are. For many the 'what I believe' never gets much beyond, "I want my kids back, and yeah, the other parent can seem them sometimes.... and oh, I'd like an anvil to fall on the heads of some judges and lawyers, oh, and also a few social workers and YES ... the government stinks!" Some others 'know' what reform should be. Mix a few paragraphs from the Constitution, stir in a little 'Bill of Rights' and some Supreme Court decisions (don't forget Troxel!). What provides the strongest foundation for action? A sound belief. If we look at the foundation of Christianity, the Apostles Creed, it starts with, "I believe in God..." Isn't that a little strange, not I 'know', just 'believe' .... I 'believe' we have a basic right to presumed FIT & EQUAL parents to our children unless convicted of a serious crime against them and found guilty by a jury of our peers. Why? Because the right to parent is one of our "raison d'etre" (reasons to exist). Responsibility to our children is one of our strongest moral imperatives. To come between parent & child destroys two lives. More background: http://www.AKidsRight.Org/civil_rights_essay.htm What do you believe? 3. Hesitation, Temptation & Action - for reform? ------------------------------------------------- This August has been a little weird for me, things seem new? Then I remember that last year at this time I was in jail with a tube up my nose and more than a little bit scared. ---- Hesitation: Many of you know the old saying, "He who hesitates is lost." Here is a true story I still remember from my training in the Air Force: A commercial airliner came in for a landing and touched down a little fast and a bit far down the runway. The pilots applied the brakes and thought they wouldn't be able to stop in time! They advanced the throttles again to takeoff... It takes those big engines a while to wind up, especially when your rolling down a short runway at over 100mph. They then figured it was better to try and stop. They pulled the throttles back and hit the brakes! Then...they saw the end of the runway coming up pretty fast and knew they could never stop. They advanced the throttles again for takeoff..... They didn't make it. The plan crashed and exploded. Everybody died. Of course, the NTSB did a complete investigation. They found out that if they would have just kept the brakes applied when they first touched down -- they could have stopped. If they had just kept the throttles advanced when they first decided to take off -- they could have made it! But the moment they retarded the throttles the second time -- a crash was unavoidable. The pilots didn't know it yet or the passengers, but their fate was sealed. We sometimes forget that our lives, and those of our children are 'moving' towards a destination. We don't always have perfect information to make a decision -- but delaying is deciding.... ---- Temptation: Things at work are busy and money is tight, for the first time I was late paying the taxes on the house. My small business has a good idea to make some money, but hard to move that forward from a jail cell? Things haven't worked so far, maybe I should give this NonViolent Action thing a break and just focus on myself? (http://www.AKidsRight.Org/civil.htm) So very tempting....just wait a while to decide! ---- Action: Our Syracuse Rally to convince Sen. Clinton did not have a large turnout. I will follow up with her staff, but she may not be convinced our issue is important. My next plan for soon after the DC Rally is to return to the Federal Building and 'write' a message about our need for her help and my love for my child -- as I have in the past, http://www.AKidsRight.Org/actionc_syr. If you think you would like to join me, please contact me as soon as you can! I do believe exchanging our freedom for jail time will help convince her....you? -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org "A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" Toll Free (877) 635-1968(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ From jmurtari at akidsright.org Sat Aug 18 08:27:47 2007 From: jmurtari at akidsright.org (John Murtari) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:27:47 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] Update from DC Rally / (YouTube) F4J climbs Lincoln Memorial Message-ID: <18118.58819.858147.851865@hammer.thebook.com> Good People & People of Faith, Just a quick update from the rally. There were well over a hundred people at a pre-rally reception held at the Best Western Pentagon Hotel on Friday evening. Rev. Ron Smith spoke to the group about the need for unity. That this is not just about mothers or fathers -- but parents and children! He called the event a chance for people to network with others and call public attention to the need to get government out of family life. http://www.dcrally2007.com/ Film producer Angelo Lobo showed some longer excerpts from his movie: Support? He spoke about his commitment to the movie and the message that needs to be told about the need for reform and the destruction of family life going on every day. http://www.supportthemovie.com/ I had the opportunity to speak to a few people who were at the Lincoln Memorial when two members of F-4-J from the UK climbed the monument and were arrested. More on that at: http://www.f4j.us/ http://www.fathers-4-justice.org/ Mark Tang took an excellent video that is now on You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Jc337XcEE The event will be going on all day today at the Lincoln Memorial. If you live close to DC, please make the effort and stop by. We all would be pleased to meet you. No need to drive into the City -- just stop at a Metro station and take a ride to the Smithsonian Station (that is on the National Mall and about a 10 minute walk to the Lincoln Memorial)! Hope to see you there! Best regards! -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org "A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" Toll Free (877) 635-1968(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ From jmurtari at AKidsRight.org Mon Aug 20 14:44:13 2007 From: jmurtari at AKidsRight.org (John Murtari) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:44:13 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] Photos from the DC Rally & waiting for your FEEDBACK Message-ID: <18121.57597.106578.425786@hammer.thebook.com> Good People and People of Faith, I've collected some pictures taken during the rally and written a little 'photo essay' on the event. I also share a few of my opinions on the event -- what was said & what wasn't said.... It was a great event, an opportunity to meet people and hear their ideas in a more personal manner than the Internet. Many of you were there and have your own impressions and photos. Please send in your FEEDBACK and I'd be happy to distribute it to the group. PLEASE - don't send pictures, if you have those, please post them at your website and just include a link that I can send out. Click here for my report on the event and pictures: http://www.AKidsRight.Org/dcrally2007 Hope you enjoy the photos. It was a beautiful day! Best regards! -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org "A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" Toll Free (877) 635-1968(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ From jmurtari at AKidsRight.org Fri Aug 24 15:53:09 2007 From: jmurtari at AKidsRight.org (John Murtari) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:53:09 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] Back to jail & Sen. Clinton/ Your DC Rally FEEDBACK Message-ID: <18127.14117.504182.386102@hammer.thebook.com> Good People & People of Faith, 1. Back to Jail - convincing Sen. Clinton? 2. Still in Jail from Lincoln Memorial - Robert Dickerson 3. DC Rally 2007 - speaker FEEDBACK. 4. DC Rally 2007 - your FEEDBACK. 5. NY Politics - Equal Parenting Party! 1. Back to Jail - convincing Sen. Clinton? ------------------------------------------ It was a pleasure meeting people in person that I only knew via email at the Rally. As I have said in previous list messages, I will soon be returning to the Syracuse Federal Building and writing some messages on the Plaza grounds: "I Love Dom" & "Sen. Clinton Help Us!" In the past I had announced exact date/times, http://www.AKidsRight.Org/actionc_syr, but I found that it only helped officials take my chalk away before anything happened. The Senator's regional rep, Mr. Jay Biba, told Katherine a few weeks ago that we need to "write more letters" to her about our issue. Well, I'll be writing more 'letters' on the Plaza. What is missing in volume, I hope will be compensated by enthusiasm and the sacrifice of my freedom, on my terms. Adding an exclamation point to those letters. How you can help/my rationale for this: Review info/letters at: http://www.AKidsRight.Org/clinton Make a polite call to her Washington and especially her Syracuse Office (ask for/leave a message for Mr. Jay Biba). You can also fax a letter to both. Syracuse Local rep, Jay Biba tel: 315-448-0470, fax: 315-448-0476 Lona Valmoro (Senior Advisor to the Senator), tel: 202-224-4451, fax: 202-228-0121 Pictures: It would be great if someone could be in the 'vicinity' and get pictures of what happens. Please contact me. Publicity/PR: Ms. Teri Stoddard from California was great in providing help before. She now has a much busier job and may not be able to make media contacts. If you can help, please contact me. Writing Letters on the ground: Obviously, it would be great to have another Mom & Dad with me either as an observer or participant. 2. Still in Jail from Lincoln Memorial - Robert Dickerson --------------------------------------------------------- Submitted by: Steve McDonough [I wanted to forward this message to everyone. No one likes to be forgotten. I don't know many of the details on Robert, but he did risk participation in the Lincoln Memorial event even though he had pending 'support' problems in New Hampshire. If someone can send me an update/jail address we will send that out - John] This is an update on Robert Dickerson [from his attorney]: Much to my surprise the State of New Hampshire picked up Robert from the DC Jail today. I learned of it this afternoon when I went to visit him. When I saw that he was not on the daily census I asked the guards at the main entrance where he was. I was told that he was picked up this morning at 6:00 a.m.? I have to say, given the resources that the State had to invest to do this I did not think they would get him. Especially since I've seen people with much more serious problems (i.e. serious criminal charges) released after three days when they are not picked up by the demanding state.By the time I learned that Robert has been picked up it was past 4:00 p.m. which is when the Rockingham County Sheriff warrant squad stops answering its phones. I have sent them an e-mail and I will call tomorrow.I have Robert's personal property and will safe keep it until his release. His court dates in D.C. are far enough out that I'm not worried that he will miss them. And far enough out that I can deal with it if, for some reason, New Hampshire gives him a date that presents a conflict in D.C. I can and will continue to work on his criminal matters in D.C. in his absence. 3. DC Rally 2007 - speaker FEEDBACK. ----------------------------------- The report on the DC rally, http://www.AKidsRIght.Org/dcrally2007 got a lot of good feedback. People enjoyed the pictures. I did get some comments from two of the speakers, below: --- Dr. Shirley Moore > Please remove the insult of myself and Dr. Mannix off of your > website? This is not right, if we are going to work together on a > common cause their is no room for this. Everyone talks about CPS > labeling people, this is the very same thing that you are doing. > Whether we work together or not, their is no room for this behavior. > Everyone has their own opinions, however, I have gotten many invites > to various states to speak on just this very issue... > I am a firm believer in mutual respect, and this is not a sign of > respect. . Lastly, people did not come all that far to be > disrespected, therefore, Mannix and I both deserve an apology. In > addition, many people have also been offended by these statements. > I pray that you would correct that site, so that leadership won't be > look upon in an unfavorable manner... In many ways I agree with what you say, but I think we should extend our unwillingness to 'label' people to the Judges, Lawyers, and Social Workers who sometimes destroy our family lives? For an event held on a day to honor Martin Luther King I thought 'go after them' speeches were out of line with his, "I have a dream". He could have chosen to say many, many bad things about the white man. Many things that were absolutely true -- but he did not. That was his way to reform, that is why I included his words at the end of my report... Personally, I did not like your presentation. I certainly don't belittle your dignity or value as a fellow human. I wanted to be level-handed and that is why I also added that many people did like your style. This is America and our 'movement' is still finding our way.... I will share your feedback with those in the group and you are welcome to have the last word. If you have time I'd like to share your thoughts with members of the group on the goal for reform? I feel we need to presume Fit & Equal parents unless you are convicted in a criminal court of being a demonstrated serious threat to the safety of your kids (with malintent). It is a 'tough' standard, but I hope it captures the essence of our Civil Right. That good, average, & poor parents are all fit and equal parents. One brief example that I welcome your comment on: A high-conflict divorce: Dad has been the stay-at-home parent, involved at school, active with kids, healthy life style, the kids LOVE him. Mom never goes to school activities, just watches TV at night, overweight & smokes, yells at the kids. When they walk into Court they are Fit & Equal, the default agreement is an alternating week with each parent, and they are welcome to attend mediation. Your thoughts? -- reply from Dr.Moore > Thank you so very much for responding and I do appreciate your > honesty with regard to my speech. I would first like to take this > time to explain to you that I did not label anyone in my speech, in > fact, everything that I said has been a proven fact. Mr. Murtari, > you see I don't say anything unless I can prove it, as a matter of > fact, I have been doing this work for over twenty years, I was doing > this work during the time that most people didn't even know that > this was occurring. > Secondly, the book that I was holding contained the checks, bank > accounts, the phony non-profits, the check's coming into these > phoney non-profits from the County Bar Assoc. I have the judges > spending the money on Country Clubs, jewelry and taking cash. > Mr. Murtari, you see these non-profits were being operated by the > judges. In addition, I have the letters from the IRS stating that > these non-profits were non existence as well as the County > Registrars stating non-filings. Perhaps, this is why the crowd > loved me because I had shown them the evidence. Perhaps, in the > future, you would take time to observe, grow and maybe you would > have appreciated the speech. > Third, I think that you missed a tremendous opportunity to see the > bigger pictures as opposed to the one or two issue's such as family > court and CPS. Mr. Murtari, you see I have always said that this > rally should have included the entire justice system as a whole, I > am a firm believer that all captives should be set free, I don't > believe that the court's improprieties should be limited to only two > categories CPS and Family Court. You understand that many times the > Family Court and CPS are instrument's and /or courts utilized to > bring you into the system to further destroy a family.. What about > probate court, civil actions against government entities by which > they don't allow you to prove your case, what about criminal cases > whereby defendant's have been railroad and not allowed to be heard, > what about code enforcement, whereby this is used to steal your > property, what about workers comp etc.? When we limit ourselves to > our own personal stories, or predicaments, we limit our ability to > grow and see the bigger picture. We need court reform across the > board. --- Sheila Mannix [She was also presented with the example equal parenting scenario above. The draft text of her speech is at the link above.] > Thank you for responding to my email to you to which I simply > attached the written draft of my speech. > I look forward to providing you with a reply to your email but right > now I have about seven motions I need to assist my co-members of > IFCAA in writing as we continue to create the record here in > Chicago, need to get out a Freedom of Information Act request as we > continue to secure the evidence to prove the illegal acts of the > corrupt public officials here ... > Further, I do hope that a formal apology is forthcoming pursuant to > Dr. Moore's email to you. When the rally leaders signaled to me > that I had two minutes to finish what I felt God meant for me to > share during my speech at the rally, I had to speed up my > presentation from the "non-frenetic" pace I began with - if you > might recall. > Further, if I might please be so bold as to refresh your memory of > how angry Christ became at the merchants in the temple. Sir, > healthy, appropriately channeled anger which gives us the strength > to do God's work in the face of tremendous obstacles is a gift of > God's Love. > Lastly, speaking as a trained professional, there is a categorical > difference between "blame" and an analysis of a problem which can > direct an efficacious solution. 4. DC Rally 2007 - your FEEDBACK. -------------------------------- --- Sally > ...thanks so much for posting the site. Good job! --- Tammi > Great job on the web site! Your reporting and pics are very good. > A Must Read... --- Dan > Where's the Beef, please don't give me tourist photo's We don't need > any more from Liars, the Damage would make Hillary Clinton Laugh ... Anyone could have tried to arrange a parents Rally in DC, including you or me. Rev.Smith did a nice job with the resources he had available. I'll share your thoughts with the group, you are welcome to explain a bit more. [Dan sent an extensive reply, included at the end of this FEEDBACK section.] --- RITA STATON > Thank you so much for sharing the photos of the Washington, DC, > rally. I thank everyone that was able to go. --- linda weston > ... I think the pictures are great. How many people were there? The > quilt looked really good and I am glad that it was there. I am > hoping that next year if this rally happens again that there will be > more people there. > Those guys that climbed the monument were really stupid for doing > that they could of just put their sign What was their reason for > doing that? Linda There were a few hundred people there. A lot of chiefs -- but not many indians! I think it will grow, Rev. Smith has a good attitude about reform and is a nice man. I've heard the same opinion from others regarding climbing the monument. I think they did a great thing. For my explanation look toward the end of report where I talk about their actions, http://www.AKidsRight.Org/dcrally2007 --- "Ghislain Duchateau" > Congratulations with your Rally report. I put it on my website > introduced by a short informative text in Dutch . Enjoy yourself > with the copy of your picture you together with the British climbing > fathers. > Link to my document in the section Actualiteit (Actuality) of Goudi > http://www.goudi.be/? > Parental problems in Belgium and in the Netherlands are indeed > similar to? same problems in the U.S. > I have been following your actions in the U.S. for a long time > included your hunger strike in prison, your attempts to approach > Hillary Clinton, your wonderful relation with your son ... I greatly > appreciate what your are doing in your country in favour of fathers, > parents with risks of loosing contact with their children. --- "Bonnie B. Vallance" > Sorry I could not make it..Unfortunately as the family courts would > have it I am financially strapped and had to work in order to try > to pay my mounting debts.. > It looks like? the rally was a success. Maybe if? you may an annual > pilgrimage it will take on a higher level of exposure.. > I have noticed way too many men and women claiming this is a gender > issue. It is not. Family court reform is a family court issue that > needs total reform the basis for which they make decisions is > faulty and inconclusive the impact on the families is indelible > damage emotional scaring for life and the cost to society at large > is beyond measure. > It is time to take gender out of the cause and to unify the cases > of erroneous family court fraud to make the system accountable > and?to protect families everywhere from delusional alienation based > on total fraud. Much of the fraud is based on? who's pockets are > deeper. To have class discrimination on children and choose the > wealthier parent as the custodian is wrong. It is time to cherish > our family ties. The cause needs to take gender out of the equation > because the disparate impact is erroneous and will not succeed > unless it it corrected to reflect reality. One day all children > will be afforded relations with their real parents and feel > connected. It can happen. Yes, I quite agree with you. We need to become parents concerned for reform and that needs to be reflected in the names of our groups. --- dcary1469 at aol.com > We greatly appreciate what you are doing for all of us. Nothing you > have written changes that. You may recognize us as one of your > letter writers and contributors. > However, I was a bit surprised to see that you are questioning > whether parents should be equal in light of some people being fat, > smoking, etc. My experience has been that on the whole, people make > choices for themselves much better than any government can. If we > assume equal physical custody, we allow and even encourage parents > to make choices together. While some may make mistakes, most > won't. I would even bet the error rate would go down significantly > regarding the harm to children. > I think the founders of this country would understand this > perfectly. I'm afraid I chose my words poorly in the article. I very strongly feel we should be presumed FIT & EQUAL parents -- I reworded the article after getting your message. I objected to 'best interest' in the sense that the government has the right to make that decision the way they do now. --- Dan continuation reply from above > PFC has right on our banner, we don't want your money we want your > Participation. Not that we don't need it like anyone else but > fathers groups have ruin their credibility with their Panhandling. > Their was no committee that put this together, but one person which > left open for a lot of fraud! No organization experience. No > political experience. No legal experiences. Fathers lose because > they don't have a plan! > The numbers are like this. 30% of women are divorced 30% of Men are divorced 40% are married How do you get over 51% to win election to change the system? 20% of men 20% of women 20% of married people who don't want to see the system get any worse = 60% which is good anywhere and anyplace. > Divorce & custody cases combining with Child Protection cases make > parents available to work together for children. This is not rocket > science! If you move women to a leadership focus you can recruit > more Indians not more Chiefs. I can lead or follow! I just need to > be able to share this technique to at least get people to listen and > discuss. > Michigan plan: > Fall 2007, go to as many counties as possible to hold rallies, hand > Brochures that can easily be conformed to local events and leaders > in the communities. Best scenario the county court house as a > backdrop (PIC's). > If their are special event, try to attend to hand out flyers > also. Lansing Rally maybe? After the winter, plan for a spring > summit and invite leaders from around Michigan, this will set plans > for the August election and our need to get Parents to run for > office, who families are more important then money. > More County rallies and maybe another big event. The most important > part of this plan is to listen you learn twice as much by listening > as you do by talking, listen to the people on the street and find > out what they want. > This is my business plan who else has got one, I will not beg for > money, I will do this with what I have. 5. NY Politics - Equal Parenting Party! --------------------------------------- --- Submitted by: Stuart Meltzer, Esq. We are running on the Equal Parenting (Independent) Party line for Family Court Judge in Nassau County and for Riverhead Town Council in Suffolk County. The Party name says it all. Let us continue to organize and cooperate. Please voice your support; Nassau Family Court Judge Candidate for Primary Republican and Equal Parenting Party http://www.parentsjusticecenter.org) --- Submitted by: "Greg Fischer" > I am still looking for additional candidates for the EQUAL PARENTING > Party; there are hundreds of openings this cycle in New York State > alone. > 1.) Interested persons must be registered voters. > 2.) Should confirm that the office is open for election with their local > board of elections. > 3.) Should ask how many Independent Signatures are necessary with their > local board of elections. > 4.) Should contact Greg Fischer by email at perfect100 at hotmail.com > 5.) Should provide Greg Fischer with their registered voter name and address > and the official name of the office they are running for. > Candidates are now collecting signatures in the following counties: > Nassau, Suffolk, Albany, Rensselaer, New York, and Kings. > Lets send a message to legislators and tell them what we want by > taking votes away from them. Best regards! -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org "A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" Toll Free (877) 635-1968(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ From jmurtari at AKidsRight.org Thu Aug 30 15:56:17 2007 From: jmurtari at AKidsRight.org (John Murtari) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:56:17 -0400 Subject: [AKidsRight.Org] Murtari arrested for chalking "I LOVE YOU" Message-ID: <18135.8417.976705.41078@hammer.thebook.com> Good People & People of Faith, Murtari arrested ----------------- At app 2pm today, 8/30, John Murtari returned to the Syracuse Federal Building to write a simple message on the Plaza. "I LOVE YOU DOM" & "Sen. Clinton Help Us!" He wrote on the ground with kid's sidewalk chalk. He wrote his message on the ground in four different locations before being stopped by building security officers. He was allowed to walk away, but was told not to come back. John gathered more chalk and returned to the building about 15 minutes later and wrote his message in another location. This time he was handcuffed and arrested by Federal Police officers. He was given a ticket for defacing Government property and was told to expect an appearance date in Federal Court. John just called us with this information from his cell phone. He does plan on returning to the building at a later date to continue a similar effort. For more details and photo of a chalked message see: http://www.AKidsRight.Org/clinton TO HELP: ------- Make a polite call to Senator Clinton's Washington office and especially her Syracuse Office (ask for/leave a message for Mr. Jay Biba). You can also fax a letter to both. Syracuse Local rep, Jay Biba tel: 315-448-0470, fax: 315-448-0476 Lona Valmoro (Senior Advisor to the Senator), tel: 202-224-4451, fax: 202-228-0121 Publicity/PR: Ms. Teri Stoddard from California was great in providing help before. She is willing to help again, shared.parenting.works at gmail.com Writing Letters on the ground: Obviously, it would be great to have another Mom & Dad with me either as an observer or participant. -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari at AKidsRight.Org "A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" Toll Free (877) 635-1968(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/